Vector Marketing Scam | Cutco Knives Scam Review

Vector marketing review

Consumers hate them… don’t fall for their simple trick.

If you are between the ages of 17 and 24, you might have heard of Vector Marketing. They recruit students between these ages for “$12-20 an hour” summer jobs. Beware, we all know about things that are too good to be true… do you expect to get $12-20 an hour with zero experience? Read on to find the dirt on Vector Marketing.

About 2 years ago, my son was looking for a summer job and seen an ad on CraigsList that guaranteed $12-20 an hour jobs for students. The ad stated that you needed to be 17+ with a high school diploma or 18+ without a diploma. It did not include a list of daily activities and was very, very vague. The ad was more like a landing page telling my son to fill out a form and apply. If you’ve been working for awhile and are a professional, you will realize that a $12-20 an hour job with no real requirement (GED) is a little far fetch.

**[Update May 27, 2013] Vector Marketing is Trying to Manipulate You Online **

This post picked up quit a bit of traffic because our SEO man is very good at search engine optimization (SEO). He informed me to inform you of Vector Marketing’s “reputation management” campaign. Reputation management, long name “online reputation management” (ORM), is when a company attempts to drown out negative reviews on the search engines. For example, lets say the CEO googles “vector marketing scam“ or “cutco knives scam” and sees tons and tons of *real* people stating how Vector Marketing is a scam. This is bad news because around 8,100 people google “vector marketing scam” every month. That is a 270 people a day! Wow, Vector Marketing must be scamming a lot of people! That number is obtained from Google’s Keyword Tool, a tool that shows how many people google which keywords (mainly used by SEOs and advertisers).

Click on photo to see full size. This is taken from Google's Keyword Tool, a tool that reports how many people search for a term.

Click on photo to see full size. This is taken from Google’s Keyword Tool, a tool that reports how many people search for a term.

So, to the CEO, 270 people a day are finding out the *real* image of Vector. That is not good for recruitment (read rest of post for why). That is 270 potential contractors who are not going to become workers. Because their business model involves having college kids selling to family and friends, this really means 270 lead sources are lost. That is a huge drop in advertising reach.

Therefore, Vector does what any other shady company does: hides their dirt. Instead of listing to the outcries and changing, they are only manipulating information. Below is a screenshot of the search engine results page as of May 27, 2013. The sites I highlighted as fake are sites operated under the purse of Vector Marketing. Do not listen to the claims on these website. Also, Vector Marketing has been posting in the comment section of this page as well as other pages online with fake testimonials. Basically, if someone seems to be *too* happy to be working at Vector, it is fake. (Why else are they taking their time to promote their employers? It is not like they are getting paid… oh wait, they are).

Watch out for fake reviews.

Watch out for fake reviews.

You Can Help Stop Vector Marketing Scam!

If you don’t want Vector misleading other people, you can end this by sharing this page on Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, and any other social networking account you have. Social signals are used by search engines to determine rankings and, therefore, if this post becomes #1, Vector losses ;-). If you have a blog, you can also blog about Vector Marketing and link to this post within the blog post. That, a backlink, also helps rank sites.

Now, back to the rest of the article…

When I read it my mind screamed BizOp. That is industry speak for business opportunity. It is a niche where people sell to other people the idea of making money. They get your hopes up on living the life you want and than feed off of your work. Or they sell you junk. Vector Marketing does both.

I told him what I thought about it and told him he should just go to the interview anyways (surprise, he got an interview… ). He might learn a few things about marketing from seeing how they work–like how they can get young folks motivated to work for them without telling them what they are going to be doing.

The interviews are all group interviews and that all the company has about 3-4 group interviews a week. The interviews had about 10 people. That is 30-40 new employees earning $12-20 an hour a week! Again, this sounds like either the company is 1.) a non-profit, 2.) super bad at finance, or 3.) a scam… the company says it has annual sales of over $200 million and is based in 250+ locations… if a company is that big, I’m sure they know how to manage their finances, so it is probably option 3.

Once you arrive at the nondescript business building, you will be given an intro on the company, Vector Marketing. Vector Marketing is the child of Cutco Knives. What Vector Marketing does is market Cutco products. You, the new sales rep, will go around and find leads, conduct in-home demonstrations, and sell Cutco knives.

What is Cutco Knives?

Cutco is an old US knife maker that used to go by the name Alcas. Cutco owns the Cutco Knives line, Kabar knives, Vector Marketing, as well as a few other companies. Cutco is privately owned and based in New York. Cutco makes pocket knives, folders, kitchen knives, machetes, balisongs, tomahawks, and a ton of other blades.

What is Vector Marketing?

Vector Marketing is a multilevel marketing company that sells Cutco Knives. You can not buy Cutco Knives from retailers like Sears–hence it is “exclusive.” Vector Marketing targets college students as well as recent high school graduate to sell knives for them. In my son’s group interview, the interviewer talked about how easy it is to sell to parents, relatives, neighbors, teachers, and friends. He paints a clear picture at how you can easily make money selling knives to people you already know.

You get a cut of the sale and, as you increase in sales, your cut increases. You also get a cut from sales done by people under you. What this means is if I tell my brother about Vector and he signs up and starts selling, I’ll get a cut of his sales. “Its a great way to earn passive income” they say.

The company also has cool things like trips to Cancun and scholarships. Wow, what a great job for a college kid!

How are Cutco Knives?

Cutco sells overpriced knives in my opinion. They use 440A steel which, for their three digit price, is very expensive. You can find 440A steel in budget knives at Wal-Mart.

What Cutco does that other knife manufacturers do not is that they offer free sharpening program. You can get your knives sharpened by the factory for as long as you want. This makes the 440A steel a lot better because, as I’m sure Vector knows, most people never both to sharpen their knives.

No matter how great the steel is or how amazing the kitchen knife is, it will need to be sharpened sooner or later. Kitchen knives are almost always made of stainless steel. Stainless steel resists rust very well but dulls quickly. Sharpening it will bring the edge back.

How does Vector Marketing Train Young People to Sell Knives?

First, you start with people immediately near you like parents and close relatives. You show them a 1 hour long presentation. You are paid a base rate of $12-20 per presentation. Yes, of course your relatives will sit there and listen to your 1 hour presentation.

The presentation will show you a $200 set of Cutco Knives (that the salesperson must buy with their own money). They often compare it to your kitchen knives. Most Americans do not sharpen their kitchen knives so the the brand new Cutco Knives wins by a long shot.

They than go into the Forever Sharp guarantee and a few other great sales tactics. Basically, the person is reciting what they heard from their boss.

If the target buys or not, the seller will ask for 10 referrals (What?! I didn’t even buy your product so why should I tell my friends about you?). Most people agree because they are too nice. Than the process happens all over again.

Why is Cutco Knives a Scam?

  • The scam with Vector Marketing and Cutco Knives is that you won’t make $12-20 an hour. That is the base rate for an appointment but most sales people do not take the base rate because that is like saying “I am inept.” Cutco feeds off of your desire to get a job and make money so that they can get you to promote their brand for almost nothing.
  • You also must spend $200 on knives. Have you ever seen a college kid who needed a $200 knife set? Or have you ever seen a college kid who cooks? Me either. They could of just give out demos to their employees. That is at least 10 appointments (or 2 weeks of work) for a new employee to break even.
  • You are using the niceness of your family. How can an uncle say no to a niece? That is how Cutco gets you to buy their knives. Most people don’t need a new set of knives (most people just need to sharpen theirs).
  • There is nothing special about their kitchen knives. Yes Ka-bar is one of my favorite knife brands but Cutco kitchen knives are overpriced. You are better off buying a professional knife set with the same amount of money.
  • You are not reimbursed for travel expenses. Yup, if you drive across the state, you won’t be paid for it and, for in-home sales, you will do a lot of driving.

Conclusion on Cutco Knife Scam

Don’t do it! If you are a college student looking for a part time job, I recommend you get a REAL job or, better yet, do something that will be a stepping stone for your career. It might not pay the best right now but, if you make $5,000 more a year after college because of it, it’ll be more valuable than any college job you could of gotten.

Real College Jobs

Good college jobs that pay well and are often overlooked are:

  • Lawn work. You can cut grass for residential and commercial properties. They are always looking for English speaking summer help. You will easily get 40 hours a week and a good tan. Look for places like golf courses if you want to earn a lot. I’ve seen ads for $12 an hour (as of summer 2012).
  • Kitchen work. You might need to start doing dish work but, after being there for awhile, you can move up to a waiter/waitress. Tips can earn you easily $100 a night. It all depends on your ability to befriend/flirt with your customers.
  • Pizza driver. $20 an hour at least, guaranteed. Most pizza orders are $20+ and, with a $2 tip and 10 stops an hour, you will get at least $20 in tips. If you want to make more, be a driver for a high end pizza joint.
  • Grow house. If it is legal in your state, work in a grow house trimming MMJ. One of the best jobs ever. Flexible hours and everyone is very laid back.
  • Bartending. This is the ultimate college job. You might need to start bartending at restaurants before you can move up to bars and clubs. Most bars will not hire people without experience. Bartenders can make $100+ a night in tips.
  • Lab work. If you want to work in the sciences like medicine, psychology, or chemistry, look for lab work at your school. You might need to be a volunteer at first but there are paid positions for students. It is a great thing to have on grad school resumes.
  • Donating plasma. You can earn $100/week for two 30 minute sessions.

Just be weary of stuff that say you can make a lot of money with little work. If that was true, everyone would be rich. Also stay away from unpaid “internships” at companies–they are just using you for free labor ;-).

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84 comments on “Vector Marketing Scam | Cutco Knives Scam Review
  1. jack says:

    You’re an idiot. Straight jack knobb, don’t know a thing but you’ll blow your horn at others…jack ass

  2. Zack says:

    Vector Marketing isn’t for everyone. Yes, it’s very easy to not be successful in the job, but they do everything they can to help you out. If you truly put in the effort, before you know it you can be making 30-40$ an hour.
    I’ve been working for Vector for almost two months now, and I average $40 per appointment. I didn’t sell a penny to my parents and just recently sold to my aunts and uncles. (Because the quality really is that good!)
    The knives are definitely better than the other brands you’ll find. High end knife sets, sometimes costing 3-4k, cut worse than Cutco. On my demos, I actually sharpen my customer’s knives BEFORE I do the cutting demonstration. Even Wustof and Shun knifes, with sets over 3k, can’t put up a fight against Cutco.On top of that, they’re guerenteed FOREVER, something no other knives do (Besides, so I’ve heard, some craftsmen tools?).
    If you actually did any research or your son stuck with it, you wouldn’t be so ignorant.
    It’s definitely not easy. There were weeks when, like you said, I put $80 in my gas tank and didn’t make a penny. But, if you really learn how to do your job, it really does pay off. There are tons of people, every year, who pay their tuition selling Cutco. Not to family but to strangers. And without being a pushy salesman!
    Just to sum up, don’t judge a book by it’s cover. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, and you may have cost some intelligent people a long term job that would take them so much further than cutting lawns. You learn communication skills and gain experience that will last you forever. (Not to mention look great on resumes!)
    I’m not even going into business! I plan to be a professor and need money to put myself through grad school.
    Plus, why would the company offer trips to the Bahamas if no one won it?

    Think before you speak.

  3. Aaron Matthew Burton says:

    Lol I just quit that stupid job yesterday after my first training it was lame im finding a real normal job not going around selling shit to people who might not buy fuck that lol

  4. jayne dyer says:

    She is absolutely correct. I tried several “jobs” like this back in the 90′s. I stuck it out for a month or so, because I wanted to give it a chance. I wasted time and gas money. I knew when I saw this letter from Vector that it sounded just like those “jobs”. Glad I checked it out. Don’t waste your time. If you have a knack for sales, you can sell anything. The ones that are successful, good for you, but don’t say someone is ignorant because of their experience. People need a job for money, and every week that goes by w/o a pay counts. Putting out $200 up front, if they had that they wouldn’t need the job.

  5. funkelt says:

    Its no different from Avon or Scentsy and the knives really are pretty good. They even have a contract with the military; i got my set from a demo at the commissary. They dont charge you for the display set anymore and they offer you the base pay to make sure you arent pressuring people into buying if they dont want to. they stress that alot, actually.

  6. Austin Conner says:

    For everyone that says that Vector is a scam, you are wrong. I make more money working here than I could doing anything else through college. Also, I got my starter kit with my knives for free. (Scams don’t give you stuff for free) So stop talking badly about it.

  7. Lou says:

    Vector regularly hire posts glowing reviews of their own companies, for every page you see where someone complains about Vector, they have people go in there and saturate the place with obviously false glowing reviews. Sentence structure is almost always the same, the story will follow the same structure(I worked with vector for x years and now I’m a billionaire), and it’s just gratingly desperate of them. You’re a damn fool if you get played by these slick-talking bastards.

  8. Tiffani says:

    I just started working for Vector, I havent sold a lot (like $300) but it is definately a hard job, it feels like im working day in and day out – not really the job I want at the age of 19 but I like it. One thing I dont like is that taxes are not taken out, so you have to consider that when you get your paycheck. So far I have gotten my first paycheck and this Tuesday, I should be recieving my second — hopefully with all my demo hours/pay on it — and if not I’m probably going to quit and keep the knives(that I got for FREE by the way – I can purchase them if i want to though). As for the knives, I love them. They have an awesome design that feels good in my hand, there blades are really sharp, and they are light weight for easy comfort.

  9. Nemesis says:

    Damn. I have never seen a teenager so excited talking about knives. Lol

    I made sure to steer clear of this job. I would rather get a job that ensures that I get laid hourly.

  10. James says:

    @Nemesis, you wanted to make sure that you had a job that got you, “laid” hourly? What job is that? Wow.

  11. Bobby says:

    This is probably THE best example of a classic pyramid scheme I’ve ever found in my life Vector, stop hiring people to comment positively about your company, anyone who has used the internet for more than five seconds can spot a bullshit comment like the ones below from a mile away, they’re as fake as your business model. And please, for the love of god, give up the whole “AHH I’m SO PASSIONATE ABOUT KITCHEN KNIVES!!!” routine, no one, and I mean no one, gives a fuck about their kitchen knives. Just stop. This is up there with the classic “Free vacation!” scams.

  12. Ko says:

    i don’t know why people cant make up their own minds. People will always listen to that first person to complain. When you get the first call to schedule an interview , all I have to say is to give it a try. How is going into an interview going to hurt you?

  13. Thomas Pingitore says:

    WOW! What an opinion… LOL How did KnifeUp Mag get such a distain for Vector/Cutco? Let me guess, they couldn’t measure up or didn’t make the cut?… LOL

  14. mom says:

    my daughter just got a call from a vector recruiter-the recruiter told her she had gotten my daughter’s name from a friend of hers (she had) and that the friend was working for vector and doing ‘really well.’ Lie. Friend had gone to the initial orientation meeting and had yet to even attend any training. Told my daughter is was NOT a sales job-Lie. Did not even tell my daughter what the product was-told her she would find all that out in training (which was 4 days-unpaid). Recruiter was EXTREMELY pushy and my daughter finally had to hang up on her.

  15. Nikkie says:

    Ok, so I received a letter from Vector a while ago, asking for me to apply for a job. I applied and scheduled an interview (they were really nice by the way). The next thing I did was look up the company. I watched about five of their videos and my excitement for the program grew. Then I typed ‘cutco knives’ into google and bam! The word ‘scam’ followed after and I’ve done hours of searching and realized how VECTOR and Cutco is getting a lot of bad rep from people across the country. ANYWAYS, I went through the interview just to check it out. Keep in mind that I am a fresh out high school 18 year old who has done three internships that paid very well, so I was excited to still do Vector because it was a ‘job’. I landed a job with the program and quit a month later.
    Here are two of the my main problems:
    1. GAS/DRIVING: Yes, the idea of selling this product in my local area is convenient, but after a while it becomes extremely annoying. They work around your schedule which is nice, but it then dawned on me that it’s the perfect job for someone who really has the passion for it. I want to be a writer one day, so my passion for this company melted away.

    2. LEADS: I had to figure out a way to get more people to sell the product to because yeah my mom has her friends, but I need more. And that’s the problem you’ll want to sell more, so it’s like a drug addiction… you’ll want to sell more, to make more money. I fell into a dead end when I had no more leads, SO I resorted to posting advertisements around my local cafe’s, bookstores, etc. And boy, did I receive attention.

    Negative attention.

    Not at me, but at CUTCO. People then began calling me (since I put my number on the ad) and every last person turned out not be new potential customers, but angry customers and recent/old sales rep for VECTOR.

    Left to right, everyone was warning me not to work for VECTOR and some even referred me to certain job positions that were actually ‘legit’, that paid around an amount that made more sense, given the fact that I am a recent high school graduate with no job experience whatsoever.

    Overall, throughout my research I found out that there are many people out there that are coming for VECTOR. I spoke with a group of people (the angry customers that I mentioned earlier) who are organizing something behind closed doors and it’s going to be big. I will be getting compensated, along with other recent VECTOR sales reps.

    So as for a warning for VECTOR, they aren’t a bad company, their just taking advantage of the young work force when WE can be making more money getting a simple job like stated in this profound article. VECTOR make sure you get your credentials straight and facts right because things are about to get heavy…

    -Nikkie

  16. Nicole says:

    I received a letter from Vector today. Luckily, I’m a skeptic and didn’t know a damn thing about them, so I looked them up. I have to say, I am angry that a company is willing to be as unethical and misguided towards young people who really need a job. I’m even more angry to find out that they got my address from my high school. They should warn schools about scams that these so that they won’t have to give out students information like that!

  17. Christopher says:

    I work for vector and I’m gonna make a hundred dollars off of just one person this week I saw in a demo and they actually live by me.. what do u say to that? Yeah I thought so….

  18. LOL says:

    @Christopher, so you made $100 in a week? WOW BALLER! ROFL that’s 100 McDoubles you can buy! Looks like someone got brainwashed by Vector pretty well.

  19. LA's mom says:

    Daughter got a call on Sunday (yesterday) to come in for an interview the next day. They said a friend had recommended her, which led me to believe they got the names from her school. At the interview today, she got bad vibes from the unprofessional interviewer, and they told her she did well and could stay for the second interview, which was about 90 minutes long. She would need to have $70 deposit for the knives she was going to show. She left and is not going back. Scam or not, I have heard a lot of people getting “stuck” with knives they didn’t want & paid for. Yes Avon has you buy products to show also, like Vector and I don’t know many Avon ladies making a decent living at it. Love their hearts! They didn’t tell my daughter who they were when they called Sunday. Wasn’t a total waste of time, she got interview practice.

  20. Kenneth says:

    I just got a job there and still need to go through training. Does anyone think it is worth it for experience? I’m having my doubts, especially since the town I live in is poor and I don’t have a license.

  21. David says:

    I got a letter from Vector today and was immediately skeptical… I wasn’t sure what $15 base-appt. meant, so I looked that up in conjunction with Vector and all of these negative things came up. I’m disappointed because I could’ve used a decent job, but now will continue to look elsewhere.

  22. Matthew Thompson says:

    Unbelievable. I read this entire post, and my opinion is that the job they are offering is not for you. It looks like a multilevel marketing job to me. Have you ever sold Mary Kay? How about insurance? What about real estate? You’ll find these multilevel marketing jobs in any of these, and while it’s not my chosen way to make money it is a valid and legal way to make money.

    In reading this entire post I cannot see where this company has done anything but offer your son an opportunity, and I can find no single instance where this company has caused any damages to your son.

    On the other hand, you are causing this company severe damages. You even brag and openly address the ceo of the company that you are dissuading at least 270 people per day from doing business with this company. You aren’t protecting anybody but instead you are causing damage to somebody with this trollish, and you will soon find out, illegal post.

    If this company owns Kabar brand knives then I assure you they have enough clout to hold you responsible and maybe even this website domain for hosting such trash.

    I had a company trying to get me to sell encyclopedia sets when I was in college too. Same business model as this only more boring. Most of the college kids that took the job failed at it, but some of them with superior communication skills and salesmanship made some serious money. I didn’t take the job because I knew I would have failed at it.

    You may think you taught your son a lesson, but I think your son is about to learn an even more valuable life lesson when he sees this company shred you up like a piece of paper. I hope your son’s college funds are already transferred to him because you probably won’t even have a house left when this company gets through with you. I’m just glad I’m not you.

  23. Alfredo says:

    Thank you so much for making this website. I was about to waste my gas and time driving to an interview. I was called and asked of I knew about the company and when I asked what it was she wouldn’t tell me. She said the manager would answer all my questions. That was very strange. However I didn’t even ask how much they paid but she told me any way. 16.75. I was really excited but if I had known that before I would have immediately assumed it was a scam. Why didn’t she just say it was cutco knives? I researched the phone number she have me and nothing but positive reviews showed up. So I was suspicious then I Yahoo searched vector and the truth came out. Even if vector does stop this website it can’t stop Yahoo! F*** you vector Yahoo is a billion dollar industry, have fun trying to stop them. I don’t see one real comment by any one working for vector. No one loves selling knives that is just stupid. You have no idea how grateful I am that I found this website. The problem with your scam is you are trying to scam the new generation of people which have internet access to research your scam. Stop scamming people and make a store like every other company does. I almost made a big mistake and I am very angry that vector lied to me. They don’t pay 17 an hour they pay 17 pretty appointment. If I wanted to make a decent 340 a week I would have to make twenty appointments. That’s 960 appointments per year. Realistically I am not going to waste my money on gas driving to meet 1000 people. That makes no sense at all! I am posting thus website to my Facebook so all my friends know about it. If vector was a person I would spit in his face. Stop posting ridiculous “I love knives” posts that’s just stupid. F*** you vector and cutco I will never buy a knife from you ever, I am now your sworn enemy. Thank you who ever made this website for the post. :)

  24. Disthick says:

    Got hired yesterday, quit 2 hours later. Lol. Though it seemed like a great job but I kept thinking, who the fuck am I going to sell to? My parents and neighbors arent stupid and neither am I. I wonder if you can get a job bullshitting like they do.

  25. Alfredo says:

    Have fun Trying to shred up Yahoo or google. Losers Yahoo probably makes your companies 20 million per year in one day. What are you going to do about that? Are you going to shed up Yahoo too? Lol cutco is a joke. I hope I help disuade anyone from ever even considering applying for vector. I am going to be very rude to who ever calls me tomorrow. I was so excited to get a job now I am beyond angry. You made a fool of me vector. I’m glad this website is showing your true colors. Speaking of taking legal action against people, wow you must be scared that people will find out the truth. LOSERS.

  26. Matthew Thompson says:

    I had another thought with regard to the mention of Reputation Management companies. What’s the big shock here? Do you not think that 100% of all huge companies do it? I find it interesting that when small or less well-known company engages in reputation management it all of a sudden becomes naughty, taboo, and unaccepted.
    Do you not think that GM, Ford, Toyota, etc don’t hire companies to improve their reputation?
    Do you not see the oil company British Petroleum (BP) every single day on your television telling us all what a great job they’ve done cleaning the oil spill and how the environment is fully restored? Do you think they do this because they care about you or the environment? No, they care about their reputation, and they are investing billions of dollars into indoctrinating you into believing they are a great company.

  27. David says:

    Not sure how it is a scam if you are presented with th selling process before you sign up.

    Most products that are still sold door to door have the same model.

    Are they selling defective knives?

  28. Marcia Young says:

    Very interesting dialog here from many different angles but here is my take for what it is worth. Twenty five years ago my neighbors son (who was about 18) came to my home selling knives. I kindly agreed to help him out and hear the pitch. About an hour later, I had purchased a set of Cutco and I have never regretted a minute of it. Those knives have been through hundreds of dishwashings and look as good as the day I bought them. I use them almost every single day and have had the sales tech out to my home only once for sharpening. I have never had to buy another knife. So speaking from experience the product is reputable and reliable. Now let’s get to the selling part – they sell their products via home or now virtual demonstrations. This is not so unusual as many companies feel this keeps down their general admin costs. My daughter received a letter this summer just finishing high school to sell Cutco, knowing she would not be selling junk, I told her to check it out to see if she would like to try Sales! Afterall it is a sales job – which is not for everyone. She wants to study business in college so this is a good intro for her. As a parent, I am helping to set expectations about the amount of work required, the time investment and how much she will actually make. Would it be easier for her to be a cashier someplace this summer – sure but she is gaining other types of skills. If you think this is any different from any other SALES job in any major corporation your mistaken. Yes, they engage young talent to go forth and try to sell as much as you can but they learn a lot from the experience and I even bought a few more items to get her started on the right track!

  29. Vectormarketer..NOT says:

    It’s pathetic because you can clearly tell there are Vector Marketing damage control hirees on the comment section. That shows how much this company has indoctrinated a lot of minds. Let me be honest and unbiased. It’s a scam and selling knives is the worst job you could ever have. Can you imagine? “My name is so and so and I have come to sell you really sharp nice knives, and in addition, I can sharpen them for you for free.” “Oh really! Let me run in the house and get the money.” (Brings Semi-automatic rifle). “BOOM BOOM, get the fuck off my house!!!” At least that’s how I would approach a Vector Marketing sales rep. I don’t know about you.

  30. Scott says:

    Ok, a lot of this is just false statements. I currently work there, and for one, you don’t pay $200 for a demo set. I actually earned an entire Homemaker set for free which they said I could sell if I want and take all the profit. Second, ya you don’t get paid for driving, that’s why they have virtual demos you can do online with people and you can get tax write offs for gas. It’s a tough line of work that (from what I’ve seen) is not a scam, and the knives are great quality. A few customers have had their knives for over 10 years and never had problems. Saying you can find similar quality knives at Walmart is a complete lie. They’re shitty China-made knives. People who say it was a scam were clearly horrible at the job and were too lazy or unintelligent to make sales. This is a horribly misleading article. It’s not an easy job, and its not for everyone. How does that make it a scam?

  31. Tyler McNeil says:

    I am really glad I got This job Vector is really great i just love Cutco knives they are the best thing on earth. sorry looks like i’m going to have cut bull sh** short they have nerve to tell me how easy it sell these knives and tell me my first demo is a guaranteed sale wrong were the hell do they get the idea that selling knives is easy I figured i’m doing something wrong it’s there strategy. the recruiter knew for a fact i was wrong for the job yet he still hires me its out lined in our manual. we hook our customers buy telling them over the phone i really need to sell you knives but of course sugar coat it if the person says there not interested we have say you are and if you already own a set of Cutco you will want more. Vector uses us because who wants to say no to a college/High school kid in need i pray they don’t make me pay for my sample knives because i’m broke look kids most people have real jobs from ex 8am to 6pm not im not gonna demo today i did 7 demos so get paid anyways and now i get to sit on my ass. look all i’m saying is vector is not for everyone but its very disturbing when they hire us kids so readily. guys get a real job it may suck buts its probably better for you any ways.

  32. Vivacious says:

    I’ve been ‘working’ at vector for a month or two now and I have to say I agree with the original post. Cutco is a wonderful product, forever guaranteed and all that good stuff. It’s just the people selling the products (and pricing them) that is just a nightmare to work with. Most of the people I have done demos for declined after hearing the price, because (guess what?) they can’t afford it. My managers tell me my customers are lying because “everybody can afford cutco.” But in actuality, no they can’t. I make little money with this ‘get rich quick’ idea they offer. So don’t knock the product, just the corporates behind it.

    Also while training to sell the product, the group never got a lunch break. This maybe a bit childish, but isn’t it illegal to withhold workers/trainees from mandatory breaks training or not? We received two 10 minute breaks, I’ll give them that. But nothing stating “go eat something.” Nope. Just “we will resume in ten minutes.” So, in other words, the trainees including myself were not granted the proper break for lunch. We went the WHOLE day (11am to 9pm) without anything to eat. I guess I was lucky enough to get a bathroom break. I could sue their asses, couldn’t I?

  33. Your Psyche says:

    My sister works for Vector and got me an interview. During the initial group “interview,” the Vector interviewer/representative basically did a powerpoint presentation with several talking points. Among these talking points were Vector’s growth amidst the recession (whereas most companies’ profits are diminishing) and the fact that, unlike most marketing firms, they hire college students or freshly-graduated high school students with little to no experience in the field (or working at all). Throughout the entire group interview, aside from doing what I could to get accepted (there’s a very, very low level of interviewee skill required, as nearly everyone is accepted), all I could think was..
    How the f*#k does this make any money at all?

    I have an inherent distrust for marketing thanks to Bill Hicks, and Vector just goes to show how deceitful, exploitative, opportunistic and manipulative marketing types can be. Contrary to their claim that they are benevolently hiring students with little experience, their real reason for doing this is that these students are naive and desperate for work and the money that it entails. Students’ naivety and desperation results in them being willing to turn a blind eye to the nature of the work, the fact that NO ONE is going to want to listen to you preach about knives for an hour, not even soccer moms (who they will tell you are their main clients). Your parents, family, and friends might put up with it, but they’ll roll their eyes and thank god that it’s over once you’re done, only to be confused and reluctant when you ask for appointment recommendations.

    Good luck trying that on strangers once you’ve run the friends&family gauntlet. “I didn’t even buy anything. Now you want to bug my friends, and you’ll tell them I recommended you?” Honestly, if it were you, which would you go for in the event that you happened to give a shit about kitchen knives – an hour with an overly eager sales rep in your own home, or twenty minutes on the internet to find the best deal?

    Furthermore, Vector isn’t the only business booming in the recession. Prisons are too. The fact that you as a business are doing well while everyone else is set back doesn’t mean you’re an especially desirable place for employment.

    Vector is essentially a pyramid scheme, and they aren’t marketing knives so much as they are marketing the (fictional) idea of well-paid labor. As a Vector employee or employee-to-be, you’re as much their target as those who you sucker into buying the knives. Your parents, friends, and family deserve better, and so do you. Probably.

    It’s a shit job market, and all that shit flows down into opportunistic minds who build giant mounds of fecal matter and cover it up with the illusion of potential money. See through the hollow promise of prosperity and flexibility that Vector promises. Don’t jump into a pyramid-shaped pile of shit just because there’s shiny stuff on top of it.

  34. Anonymous says:

    I think you’re an idiot, I realized that when you said that you have to pay for the demo kit.

    And literally all the job requires is that you go to someones house and show them how the knives work, you don’t have to request referrals or anything like that.

  35. Jon says:

    I just started this job. It is very time and energy consuming, but I can say the potential to do decent is there. This past weekend I made $150. The demo set is free, so the only investment you put in is your time. I just need the extra money and I’ve always been a decent salesman, but I will say that they do over-indoctrinate people… but honestly why wouldn’t they? They’re a business trying to MAKE MONEY. Scam? no. Is it for everyone? no. But if it’s not for you don’t go off saying its a scam just because you couldn’t make it work.

  36. The Decider says:

    Hey all you VectorBots in the comment section, we know you’re not human. So quit posting your comments thinking that you can change people’s perception about this blatant scam.

  37. Ariel ann says:

    I woek at vector n they pay me for the gass mileage sooooo idk how im losing money. Oh wait im not!!

  38. Chris Potts says:

    As a tool & die maker and plant engineer, I know for a fact that the steel used for these knives are crap ! 440 steel is one of the lowest grades of steel made, and it’s not made in the USA, only in China or Japan. We call it sh*t steel because it doesnt work for a lot of things. Yes it willl hold an edge, but once sharpened the edge breaks down quicker, because there is a low carbon point !

  39. Don't Work For Vector! says:

    I’ve been working with Vector for about a month now, & decided to quit TODAY. First of all, I first heard about it on craigslist. I called, left a msg, & gotta call back within 20min. I thought it was very strange that they called back that quick, but I was so overwhelmed w/ happiness at finally getting a job, that I didn’t pay attention to it at the time. I went for the interview, & seen about 13 other teens by age in there. They had us fill out an application which didn’t ask about what school we attend or attended & nothing about past work history, which also seemed shady to me. The manager; Dan Rasper, called us in, in pairs of 3. He didn’t really tell us what we were gonna be doing, neither did the girl; Autumn, on the phone. All he said it was a position for a sales rep. After the 1st part of the interview, we sat in a small room w/ pop music playing, there were posters all over the room, which reminded me of a classroom from elementary school, & trophies on the back table. The assistant manager; Jack, was very unprofessional; he was talking to us about video games & electronic music? I expected this place to be more business orientated. The manager came in & said we had to sit through a 90min presentation. I was pissed off, because I thought it’d be quick, but stayed for a presentation. That’s when he told us what we would be doing; sell overly priced knives that aren’t worth the steel they’re made w/. I was surprised & kinda disappointed because I thought this would be a 9-5 job. After this long boring presentation, he called us in, in pairs of 2. He mused about both of us “stood out”, & how only very few of us will receive the position. I immediately got the job, which I was a little skeptical about, but I was happy at the moment. The other girl got the job too. I was a little curious to see who got accepted, so I stood in the hallway while people walked out. Turns out EVERYONE got the job, & almost everyone said the manager said they “stood out.” That was another red flag, but I thought I’d still give it a try. Our training lasted 5 days, & was SUPER long & BORING. They promised we’d get paid for training, which we didn’t. It was 7hrs long, so it felt like school. We barely got to have any breaks, let alone a lunch break, & minimal bathroom breaks. After training, I tried to go out & sell their crappy knives. I didn’t do that well, but I kept trying. I ended up selling over $300 worth of stuff, & was promised $170 commission. I get my check in the mail & see that it’s only $24.80!!! Which I found to be ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. I called them up & told them I didn’t get the right amount of pay. They told me they couldn’t do anything because the check was already issued.

    Overall, steer clear from this company please! They make false promises & get you all pumped up for nothing. They also make you feel bad if you didn’t sell anything. Their knives are good, but are NOT worth the money you have to pay. They make you put your relatives on the spot so you can sell more. Their whole training manual made me feel like the biggest SOB ever. They pretty much train you to scam idiots into buying their product, which isn’t abnormal, but I’d rather not be sucked into that type of business.

  40. Steve says:

    “I’ve been selling Cutco for years, and I make a fortune. I’m going to buy my second property next month.”

    Said NOBODY, EVER……..

    The knives are generic, cheap crap. Made of the lowest grade blade material possible. Priced as if they’re top quality, professional grade cutting instruments.

    Stay away from them! From either direction, buying OR selling.

  41. Marcus Kelly says:

    Are you serious? First of all, you don’t need to by anything from vector. Second, you don’t choose which form of pay to take. You get payed whatever ends up being higher. Third, you don’t exploit your family. You present to your family and friends so that you can become comfortable with the presentation. It is expected that you begin selling to refferals within 2 weeks. Your information on the knifes themselves is completely inaccurate. The people in this comment section are likely people who got screened out or those who just done have any drive to make money.

    It’s funny how you think that growing bud is a legitimate job and that this isn’t.

  42. Jesus Christ says:

    Wow….. “They don’t pay for your gas, it’s a scam!” Well yah, I assume when you drive to any normal job they don’t pay for your gas either. I’ve also heard “They don’t pay you for training!” well yah, because generally YOU pay for training. You go to college, you pay for classes, you go to public schools because they are free (or what now, are they a scam too because they don’t pay for your parents gas or for your school supplies?) if anything you should be lucky that the job doesn’t require you to pay for training. If this is what you’re reading then just stop reading the complaint; they’re idiots.

    Now I’m not saying it’s not shady, I work for them and all. For one there is no longer any security deposit so you don’t have to pay for the knives but you used to (even then it was refundable so if you wanted to you could just quit and get your money back, something unheard of in scams). But the reason they’re shady is the way they work, they get a college kid and get him/her to go around selling overpriced knives because people will sympathize with them. The first thing that it says in the manual to do is not talk about kitchenware but to talk about yourself and how much you need the income. Other than that all the kid does is learn and grow, get good at marketing. This isn’t fake or anything, it’s accredited by many organizations like freakin’ DECA, but it’s manipulative. Essentially, this is very useful experience for the seller, it allows them to gain skills and money (probably why it’s so overpriced) selling some product which for one gives them some income and two gives them good experience for leaving to get a better job. So what the real loser out of all of this are the unfortunate people who buy it, it’s a pretty ok product that lasts a long time and if people didn’t research the topic beforehand then they might even think it’s the best, so they think it is and they feel it is, but if you’re a professional chef they’re a joke (which is why they let it slip out for a moment that chefs don’t buy Cutco).

  43. kairi says:

    For one… you do get paid 1 of 2 ways, Incentive pay which is a percentage of how much you’ve sold or base pay, whatever amount of pay per hour/demo… you get paid by which ever amount is higher. For two… they have you start demos with your family and friends so you can work on how you do your demos and practice and you do get paid for them. For three…you do NOT have to pay for a set to do demos. They give you an option to buy them but you do NOT have to. Fourth … they arent required to give you a “lunch” break because they arent paying you for the training. And lastly…. I dont know who you people have been hearing all of these negative things about this company from but they are the #1 too rated knives. Of course there are better knives out there but these are awesome sets. If you dont like the company… dont buy anything from them. And for your children that you told not to work for them because its a “scam” youre going to be the reason why they dont get good experience with communication, sales, team work, competition, and a great pay. If you really had a problem with the CEO and had/have proof of them deleting or faking posts why dont you bring it up with them? Not cower behind the internet.

  44. Matt Eck says:

    While i can’t vouch for Vector, The knives are the best, but expensive. My girlfriend in 1962 purchase the full kitchen set of knives, pots and skillets, cooking set of spoons, potato masher, pancake turners. I was shocked to find out what she paid and financed when we got married in 1963. I soon realized the value though after we paid them off. We have been married for a little over 50 years and still have and use every day the FULL original sets. Only one knife had it’s tip broken when one of my 4 sons was breaking ice with it a chip the tip off. I have since purchased numerus sets for wedding gifts. They will remeber you for the rest of their married years. Thanks, Matt

  45. s3421 says:

    Scam or not, my boyfriend has recently been ‘hired’ by Vector and I’m so sick of hearing how great he thinks the knives are. The company is manipulative. No matter what, it’s wrong to use the people who are close to you to gain pity money. A student looking for a part-time job should find a job in which the customers go to them, not them going to the customers.

  46. Mmm says:

    Vector is a scam. Man, I was so happy and excited that I got the job. But things felt really shady. So when I googled it, scam was everywhere! Real people talked about their experience. The people so nice and crap, but their all BS. While my family was waiting for me at the interview, which took like 4 hours, the ladies in the front desk were calling SO many people telling them the same thing, to quit their job and work for vectors. The place didn’t look really business type. Also, manager gave a really long and boring presentation. He also said that their too high quality to advertise on TV. They were degrading other companies. Training is unpaid, and they don’t tell you a lot of other things about the job. They try to lure young college and high school student into working. It was a complete waste of my day. Vector is complete BS. They are evil and are only using your hard work, to feed their greed of money. Don’t waste your time. Get a real job. Their cons. Someone should sue them.

  47. ciege says:

    To be completely honest I love working for vector. It is a great job, and its a great opportunity to be able to make your communication skill ten times better. Better yet it has built my resume entirely to a whole other level. I have recently graduated high school and I was looking for a job. I didn’t even look for vector. A friend recommended me, yes and now I know I am doing great. My first week of being there I sold the biggest set that vector marketing has to offer. Its actually called the “ultimate set” and I thought it was a piece of cake. I’ve been working there for three weeks and now I enjoy the fact that I can go to an appointment to meet a new people everyday and to be honest I go to make friends, not customers. Why would they scam me or customers? Cutco knives are very high quality and forever guaranteed. Also they might not take taxes out, but to be for real in the initial training, they did tell you that there is three things that taxes will be taken out on and here it is: sales, gas, and business. They clearly state in the training that it is your responsibility to calculate your taxes so when tax time comes around it is your responsibility to get that turned into Vector. So practically, your getting reimbursed for gas, what was deducted from a sale(CPO), and any other things that was connected to help or provide for you while you are working with Vector. This website is the scam, not vector. So, where ever the information is being thrown or most “factual” they are wrong and actually need to get their facts straight.

  48. Nicole says:

    So I found this job through an email from snagajob about two weeks ago and instantly researched it after I scheduled my interview for the next day. I did read all of the bad experiences people had an I also read the (maybe not honest but who really knows for sure) good experiences. I decided that it can’t hurt to give it a try because, why not? They clearly explained the job and what I would be doing and I wound up getting the job. I did go through the three day not paid training (which was a bit uncomfortable but whatever it’s over so it’s okay). I learned a lot. I wasn’t brainwashed I learned about knives and a bit how to sell. My first weekend I sold about $800 in cutco (which is harder to sell than I thought even though its a great product). Some people don’t sell anything in their first weekend and some people sell a lot more than I did I was above average. I had my first advanced training yesterday and I’m still unsure if I like the job. I like the money though. In the area I live it’s impossible to get hired (I’ve been applying for over a year to everywhere I can find). I like that I’m getting experience so I can get hired for another job. Since getting appointments can be hard, (I’m being turned down by even people I know well) I am looking for a second job since you make your own schedule doing this so you can work it around what you have going on. It’s a nice job to gain experience and its flexible. Although the company doesn’t really want you collecting base pay, you can and should still be happy about that income as long as you try to make more than base pay. I’m not completely sure about this job yet, as I’ve only done 6 appointments and have 2 more today, but I do encourage people to try it on their own and if you don’t like it, oh well! It’s not for everyone like others said. And try not to put as much pressure on yourself as you fell necessary because it is hard to sell during these times. Your manager should be proud of you no matter what you sell as long as you try, so if you have a manager that isn’t like that and you feel is pressuring and is making you stressed, don’t take the job at that office. If you have another office you can work at, try it. If not, oh well at least you gave it a shot. You won’t know if its a good job for you unless you try. (: good luck to those of you who give it a try and good luck to those looking for jobs elsewhere.

  49. Newcomer says:

    Look I work for Vector right now. I’m 17 and straight out of high school. When I got the call I thought it sounded a little too good to be true but figured I would hear them out. What they do is a group interview to kinda relax you while they do a power point. Then when that’s done they take one by one with the manager to pressure you into the job that’s exactly what my manager. They don’t make you pay for the sample anymore but its just like any sales company you’re presentation is designed to pressure people into buying. There is literally two pages worth of explanations that I have to memorize word for word that is “designed for you to succeed in selling the product.” Basically they want you to take advantage of relative’s and neighbor’s kindness. In my opinion the stuff is over priced but pretty everything is nowadays. Personally I don’t like the job because its your typically sales job and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.

  50. Shawn Love says:

    Lmfao. You people on here are funny. First off this site is made from some kids mommie who is upset her baby didnt make anything of himself. Unless you have actually gone to an interview and finished would you really know what you are taking about. Cutco is not a scarm neither is vector, vector is a marketing aspect of cutco. Yes vector does look for younger people they also look for older black white brown yellow green, college some college no college. IT IS A SALES JOB what do you sorry lazy people think happens in sales, you sale to people. Why start with friends and family according to you people its to scam everybody well you start with people you know becasue it gets easier and easier each time you do it. You think any major or intellegent company would allow a trainnee to handle their loyal customers? Read what is given. Thats what the job ask of you. Read… if you dont sell you will get paid base pay. In order to protect themselves from lazy workers looking for a handout if you have 3 demos no sales they look to help you find why sales are not being made. Everything is explained to you during trainning, where you not listening? As far a cheaply made and ordinary it is obvious that person has never seen one. An fir the prices 1. You can make payments 2. The knives are not hundreds of dollars the most use knife is only $33. Dont try to blame cutco for you not making anything of yourself. You cant sell you cant sell. That your fault and yours alone. As a sales rep you are your company so a 17 yr old kid working for vector can use that on his resume and never look back… my advice would be dont blame someone who gave you a shit because you cant shoot.

  51. Take my word for it says:

    I recently quit vector marketing because it was too ridiculous. I worked for them for about a month until i realized that I was losing money rather then making money. First of all you don’t get paid for training but I didnt complain because I was desperate for a job. Also you dont get compensated for going to peoples houses. I was promised 16.50 per demo, which you set yourself, and I noticed my checks were always short. My very last check was only $93 which is $40 shorter then what it should have been. By the time this check came I had already quit. I tried to get in contact with my manager to discuss my small
    checks and he never answered or called back. Also I was
    supposed to get paid off those that I had recommmended when I first started and never recieved that money. I’ve been trying to get in contact with my manager but he’s literally ignoring my calls. I will go to the office myself and demand my money. Many students take this job because they are desperate for money. I’m telling you from experience this job is bullshit. I do not recommend anyone work for them. I will never work for them again. This job is literally on the same level as stripping to me. Only do it if your absolutely desperate.

  52. Joe says:

    Everyone that says this is a scam is a fucking idiot. Just because they or their child sucked at it and didnt make shit doesnt mean that it is a scam. I have worked there the past two summers and in the first summer I made around 2 grand and this summer I made over 10k and had a 20k push. Anyone can succeed in Cutco as long as they practice the presentation and get good at asking for recs. Most people that bitch about and quit did around 3 demos. Training sucks but it is necessary. 3 demos a day at $15 a demo is $45 a day regardless of sale for 4 hours of work (including Phone time). 3 of my last 4 paychecks have been over $2000 which is more than my parents make(this will not happen your first summer on the job). There is nothing like getting a $3600 paycheck (before I hit 50%) in the mail and telling all your friends to suck it because they thought Cutco was a scam or they were too scared to call people. The fact is- Cutco is the best cutlery on the market and the best cutlery that EVER will be because of the quality and the guarantee. If you know how to show the customer this you can make big money. I just graduated from high school and had no intentions of going to college for financial reasons but now I leave in a few days to continue my education because of a scholarship Vector awarded to me. Cutco changed my life and solidified my resume and it is sad that so many people fail at it. For all you pussies who didnt make shit I have a few questions-
    1. How many demos did you do?
    2. Did you follow the manual?
    3. How many phone calls did you make a week?
    4. Did you run out of recommendations?
    5. Why did you quit?
    Email me at jhopkins95@yahoo.com with your answers and any other excuses and I will tell you exactly why you failed at the job. If you have any questions feel free to email me too.

  53. -_- says:

    I guess I should reply to some of these accusations.

    “Vector is a scam. Man, I was so happy and excited that I got the job. But things felt really shady. So when I googled it, scam was everywhere!”

    And if you Google “Black people smell like” what are the first auto fills? Yes there are ALOT of links about how it’s a scam, the problem is that they don’t know what the word “scam” means and are only complaining since they sucked at the job.

    “Real people talked about their experience. The people so nice and crap, but their all BS. While my family was waiting for me at the interview, which took like 4 hours, the ladies in the front desk were calling SO many people telling them the same thing, to quit their job and work for vectors.”

    They don’t tell people to quit their jobs, in fact you can still work a normal job and work at Vector as well because the way it works is very flexible since you choose when you work.

    ” The place didn’t look really business type.”

    Ok? How is that indicative of anything.

    “Also, manager gave a really long and boring presentation. He also said that their too high quality to advertise on TV. They were degrading other companies.”

    Um well for one that’s a common tactic in any advertising campaign. Watch commercials every other commercial is degrading to other companies because they’re trying to compete and convince their clients that their product is superior. Secondly Vector doesn’t do that to other comnpanies unless they’re a cheap brand or some knives that are sold on TV and change the name of the company constantly so as to avoid having to fulfill warranty obligations. In fact part of the Presentation is to build up the reputation of other companies and you’re told about them during training. Either way if you don’t convince your customer that your product is better than your competitors you’re not doing your job as a salesperson.

    “Training is unpaid,”

    How is this a criticism? This to me is the most absurd criticism of all. I know fast food restaurants and ice scream shops pay you for training, but really if you were going to work there anyway wouldn’t you show up to training whether or not it was paid? Training only goes on for 3 days, 5 if you include adv training, you work many more days than simply 3 or 5.

    “and they don’t tell you a lot of other things about the job.”

    Like what? It’s difficult? Every single objection a customer may come up with? Honestly I felt that in training they told me everything I would need to know for the job.

    “They try to lure young college and high school student into working. It was a complete waste of my day. Vector is complete BS. They are evil and are only using your hard work, to feed their greed of money. Don’t waste your time.”

    ….Yah it’s called a job. You work hard for a company and then they pay you back in money. Unless you’re a proponent of the Socialist idea of Wage-slavery this is fine. You’re just taking something and wording it differently so that it’s negative. For example, I could call what you’re saying a person expressing their opinion, or some moron who wants to slander a company because they stopped at the first sign of negativity.

    ” Get a real job. Their cons. Someone should sue them.”

    People have sued them and honestly I hope they do again since every kid gets paid out of the lawsuit :P But the lawsuits weren’t for anything shady like not paying kids, it was more like they violated some obscure labor laws and had to change it up.

    “Scam or not, my boyfriend has recently been ‘hired’ by Vector and I’m so sick of hearing how great he thinks the knives are. The company is manipulative. No matter what, it’s wrong to use the people who are close to you to gain pity money. A student looking for a part-time job should find a job in which the customers go to them, not them going to the customers.”

    This is the most legitimate complaint I’ve heard and this is what was hardest for me to get over, I didn’t like the system of reaching out to people and trying to offer them a product, I am one of those people who thinks “If I didn’t wake up in the morning and thought to myself that I needed something, why would I go out and buy it simply because a salesperson told me to?”.

    In reality this isn’t really pity money, the reason they use close relatives and family members is because they need to break down the barrier of distrust people have for salesmen, especially those who come to them along with the discomfort the seller may have being new and all. To remind you this stuff is also really expensive, on some of these orders people shell out a thousand dollars. When was the last time you went up to your parents, much less anyone else you know, and asked them for a thousand dollars and they said yes? Or hell even less than that like around 400$? At best you might just be able to ask for the cheapest product on the catalog for a measily 33$. But people shell out alot more money than simply 33$ or more often than not don’t buy anything even if they know you. People pay alot for these things not because their friends son is selling them, but because they’re a high quality product.

  54. Alexandra says:

    I have a job interview with Vetco tomorrow. I decided to do some research on the company so I checked out their website & it looked promising but when I was typing in “Cutco,” “marketin scam” was higlighted. After some thought I’ve read a couple of blogs including this one. I’ll see what it’s bout tomorrow I guess. Hopefully it’s not so bad cause I could use the money.

  55. Alexandra says:

    *highlighted *marketing

  56. Michael says:

    I love how the people here accuse Vector of having hires in the comment section. That’s kind of sad, because it opens the door for every pro-Vector post to be “paid content.” That’s bullshit. I work for Vector. I’ve worker in sales before. The model, all of Vectors policies, they make sense. Can you get screwed over? Yeah. Most sales jobs can screw a person. Can you make bank money? I can’t say from experience, but I think you can. There is no scam to Vector, only your standard corporate bullshit that one finds in every company. Vector is no worse than GM, Proctor Gamble, Coke, McDonalds, and in fact, probably engages in less disinformation than the companies above. All in all, people need to calm their tits. You’re doing serious damage to a company because a) you failed as a rep, b) you are gaining your facts from poorly written comments/articles on the Internet (which is always stupid), or c) you don’t actually understand anything about direct sales/independent sales. No matter your reason, take the fallacious logic elsewhere. There are plenty of reasons to hate Vector/Cutco, so pick one that isn’t full of shit.

  57. Chris says:

    I hate seeing comments from people that are very negative. Especially those who did not even gave it a shot or just to take a look. If you don’t want to be successful in life, then don’t drag everyone else to your nonsense. You are just a hater because you cannot do it! If you don’t keep an open mind, then your brain will become rotten and you will be stuck to whatever you have right now for the next five to ten years. If you grasp opportunity and change what you are doing it might get you somewhere else better than your past five years. In short, if you are doing what you have been doing five years ago, guess what you will do in the next five years?

  58. Alex says:

    legit, i wont waste too much time but you have no idea what you are saying because 99.9% of everything you said is completely false. you don’t pay for the kit anymore, you do get paid the base pay if sales aren’t higher, it’s not hard to sell, cutco is better than any knives, compare and contrast if you but you wont find anything like it, you start with your people to get recomendations because your not cold calling or going door to door, i started with ten i have 180 i still haven’t called yet, everything you do, gas wise and expese for the trips to conferences, or food for presentations are 100% tax deductible. the thing is that vector is the only job that pushes you to actually work for your money instead of getting paid the same as the average guy that slacks off on his shift, plus if you want to look at phone times and appointment times as an hourly shift, think 3 hours phoning twice a week so 6, 15 appointments a week for example(they last 45 minutes to an hour) think 13.50 per hour( 283.50 flat weekly) now think the average sale being $250, which it is nationally, 60% sales ratio which it is, at 20% commision(once you sell $3000, which i did on my second week, some did earlier, it goes up 5% from 10, once you get to 30% the next is 40% then 45% then 50%) you made $450 that week as oppose to $283.50, now multiply that for a month, you made $1,800 that month, working 21 hours, not even full time, you make your schedule and if you want to you can do 1 appointment a week but you wont get paid much because you’re lazy and thats when you go online and post these blogs or videos saying we’re a scam…

  59. kim says:

    I do not nor have not worked for them but I must say that jobs like this are simply not for everyone they do best with those who know a lot of people or own their own business where u could demonstrate them or people who don’t mind driving around a lot

  60. Vic says:

    This nonsense has been around for years and years. This is 2013 so who the fuck wants somebody coming to their home to show them knives? If you are dumb enough to take a job like this you’re better off stabbing yourself with one of the knives.

  61. Dan says:

    Back in high school my marketing teacher sent these out to everyone in the class. I received the letter and gave it a shot. It’s not so much the exploitation of friends and family that got me to rebuke Vector but more of their “interview process”.

    I drive to a random commercial area that’s somewhat sketchy and not bustling with activity. I make my way into the designated waiting area and wait with a handful of other anxious and eager teens. We are all waived into this room where they pretty much demo us the product and show some VHS or something regarding the product (basically a live infomercial).

    Now here’s the kicker, during the session two “senior” members would walk around the session and pick out people and ask them to leave. Why? Because they “didn’t show enough interest”. I have never seen anything like that in an interview session before especially one for 30 or so people. It wasn’t private, so other members saw you get pulled away. It was disheartening to see some girls crying because of this and all because they didn’t stare at the session for 90 minutes straight.

    I ended up making the cut and was pulled into a separate room where I waited for the “manager” to talk to me. He asked me some questions regarding college, made some scribbles on the form I filled out earlier in the evening and said I could earn credits and they would be transferable. I just went along with it since I was pretty much overloaded with information.

    Before I left, I had a few members approach me and try to coerce me into doing it and all the benefits such as the group vacations etc.

    I believe I received about 2-3 calls the following day and then 2-3 the next day asking if I wanted in. I kindly declined and was still pressured into signing up with the person on the phone mentioning that “I’m missing out on a great opportunity”.

    Needless to say I got a real summer job that year and ended up doing more for my career than I could have selling knives to my friends and family.

  62. Theo says:

    Vector MArketing called me yesterday they said they recieved the application i have made(I never applied whatsoever) .,,, well the chick(Shelly 2812018386 sugarland office) that called me have a cool voice so i got carried away and she told me that the starting salary will be $16.00 (im here in Texas), $16 bucks for starting in texas is damn high for a no experience guy. She told me that I will have an interview nextday meet this (Ms Kristian Aszaal).

    At first i have no idea what company Vector is, so after the call I checked Vector online, then i see selling fuckin knives, thats bullcrap. and too many lawsuit under them about unpaid salary, how can i trust them,.

    I already have been ripped off once buy a pyramid scam, so there is not gonna be a second one,.

    —-

    What I dont believe that cutco make good knives, in my experience
    Cutco knives suck dirt. I use Calphalon Knives set and still way cheaper than that crappy expensive cutco.

  63. Steve says:

    The amount of misinformation in this thread and in the original post is unbelievable. Yes, I work for vector. No, I’m not a fake “good review”. But I realize saying that doesn’t do much. Whatever. But the lies here make you lose all credibility. I did not pay for my starter set. As an independent contractor, NOTHING is mandatory. Really, the only “mandatory” time I have to spend in the office is a meeting once a week. Which takes about 2 hours. Other than that, if I do demos, I get paid my base pay.

    You don’t have to drive tons. You can do virtual demos where you talk on the phone with the customer and walk them through an online demo. So shut up about travel expenses. I don’t think you people understand what an independent contractor is? They don’t have to pay you for training. So stop complaining. (No rhyme intended)

    The receptionist was mean? Walmart employees are rude sometimes. Does that make walmart a scam? That’s people. People are rude. This is life. Learn to deal with it. It does not mean that the company trains people to be meanie-faces.

    You think the knives are expensive? You don’t think they’re good quality? Cool. Your opinion. I’m glad you have it. But that has NOTHING to do with it being a scam. You people are the equivalent to conspiracy theorists. You use pseudo-intellectualism and make claims when you are ignorant to what you are talking about. Know how I know you’re ignorant? Because you’ve spewed complete lives. So your credibility is shot.

    As for “revolving door”, no, this job isn’t easy. It’s not for everyone. Some people only make the base pay so the quit because it might not be killer money. But the job isn’t designed to live off the base pay. That’s a safety net for when you have a shitty week. Those who sell make money.

    Finally, learn about business and business models before you talk about them. People throw around “pyramid scheme” and challenge the structure of this type of business. Clearly you don’t understand them. It’s comparable (VERY closely actually) to Aflac. And I would know because I do that too. Educate yourself before entering discussion, people.

  64. T says:

    when I worked there in 2010 the knife set was 250 just for me to beable to start showing. if you do not live in an area with money like I did you will go no where. I took the job to help my family with bills but doesn’t happen when no one in that area could afford a knife set even if they used there whole months pay. Yes there are payment plans but that only helps so much.

  65. sasaa says:

    Can’t be too bad see people on ebay fighting for top bid on ebay. One set is selling for more then what its worth. I sold it in 2008 sold over 3k in sale. Not easy.

  66. Anonymous says:

    I hear the knives do not need to be purchased. They can be if you want to keep them but if you give them back you pay nothing for them.

    Also in reference to this:That is 30-40 new employees earning $12-20 an hour a week! Again, this sounds like either the company is 1.) a non-profit, 2.) super bad at finance, or 3.) a scam… the company says it has annual sales of over $200 million and is based in 250+ locations… if a company is that big, I’m sure they know how to manage their finances, so it is probably option 3.

    If they are as big as you say they probably make enough to be able to afford it.

    Lastly when talking about these knives being overpriced. Prices for other high quality sets reach 3,000-4,000 dollars. My parents bought a set from a neighborhood sales rep for only about 1,000 and we used to have a 3,000 dollar Wustof set until we got Cutco cause it was plain better.

    Not trying to start a fight just want everyone to not be misinformed from either side.

  67. Nonnor says:

    I started selling in july currently at 15k in sales and am in training for management. If you are charismatic and committed it is in fact very easy you just need to learn the tricks. The longer you stay the more tricks you learn and the easier it becomes.

  68. Michelle says:

    Oh my gosh, I was doing some keyword research and i stumbled upon “vector marketing scam”…and found your site. I’m 46 and when I was in college, I was roped into selling cutco knives (vector marketing). My major at MU was Business Administration with an emphasis in Marketing…so I was able to get my University to actually award me 3 credit hours in direct marketing for selling those knives for a semester!
    It was the BEST experience ever. It taught me the skills of hard selling and those knives are AMAZING quality. My mom, all her friends, and myself still RAVE over those knives. They are sharper than ever and cut through stuff like butter.

    You have to work your tail off to get to 50% commissions and few make it that far….hence, Kevin Gardinier, our recruiter, was VERY rich. But I don’t care. This is the PERFECT business model for vector marketing and is it a scam? It depends on how you look at it. I personally don’t call it one. Because if I would have stuck with it and didn’t give up, I would have made money. But only about 5% stick with it.

    Cheers!

  69. Will Chavez says:

    There is so much wrong with this post, I don’t even know where to begin….

    You aren’t very good at grammar for one, but it wasn’t unreadable.

    But your opinions, Christ, this is like reading an anti-atheist over-catholicized website. Your facts are so wrong, it’s like hearing a high school kid who never reads the news argue about politics.

    Where do I begin…

    I have been working with Vector for over a year, and am just shy of $20,000 in career personal sales, and the majority of that is in the past 3 or 4 months. I did not take the job seriously when I first started, which I regret.

    I have traveled all around the country with this company, all paid for by them, but we’ll cover that in just a moment.

    I am going to run my own branch of the company at age 19 next summer, and will be able to put on my resume:

    “I ran my own branch of a multi-million dollar corporation at age 19, interviewed and trained dozens of new sales representatives, and sold thousands of dollars of product.”

    And that is being very modest.

    Enough about me though, let’s break down your post, shall we?

    First of all, you said:
    “The company also has cool things like trips to Cancun and scholarships. Wow, what a great job for a college kid!”

    This passive air of sarcasm really shouldn’t be present in this sentence, because this sentence is entirely true.

    In my one year of working here, I have traveled (at ZERO cost to myself, I might add) to New York, Denver, and South Padre Island, TX. I will be going to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico this coming spring break, and possibly Rome the next summer, all on the company’s dime, because I am very good at what I do.

    I, personally, haven not won a scholarship, but I personally know 5 different recipients of the Vector Marketing scholarship. They worked their ass off, and earned a scholarship.

    No, my results are not typical, but nor are they nonexistent.
    It’s not the company’s fault your son was awful at sales.

    You said:
    “The scam with Vector Marketing and Cutco Knives is that you won’t make $12-20 an hour. That is the base rate for an appointment but most sales people do not take the base rate because that is like saying ‘I am inept.’”

    Seriously, self-contradiction? “Yes, that’s the pay, but you don’t make the pay.” Regardless of whether or not someone sells a lot, that amount IS guaranteed to them. If they suck at their job, you are correct, they admit to sucking at their job by submitting for base pay. But they still get paid.

    Company average order size is $250. IF someone buys something, they will spend, on average, that amount. Company average closing rate is 60-70%, but let’s low-ball it, and say 60%. If someone does 10 demos, they will get a base pay (let’s say it’s at $15/hr) of $150. If they do company average, that means they sold (60% of 10 x $250)$1500. Starting commission rate is 10%. That person, if they were company average, and just starting out, would make $150 as well.

    BUT, promotions happen very quickly. After $1000 in sales, you get promoted to 15% commission. So, factoring that in, an AVERAGE person would have just made $175.

    But we’re still not done. Say the same person did that for another week. They’re now at $3000 in sales. Welcome to 20% commission. Their next ten average demos will earn them $300

    An again, they continue for a few weeks. They pass the 25% commission mark (6k) and the 30% commission mark (10k in sales.) now, those same ten appointments will earn them $450.

    Using the math of ten demonstrations a week (which, let’s keep in mind, is only about 20 hours of work) an average person would take 6-7 weeks to hit 10k in sales. After 6 weeks, you are literally tripling your starting pay. Once you get to 40, 45, and 50% commission (at 20k, 25k, and 30k in sales, respectively) you are making a silly amount of money as a college kid. This job is the best decision I’ve ever made.

    You wen’t on to say:
    “You also must spend $200 on knives. Have you ever seen a college kid who needed a $200 knife set? Or have you ever seen a college kid who cooks? Me either. They could of just give out demos to their employees. That is at least 10 appointments (or 2 weeks of work) for a new employee to break even.”

    Wrong. Earlier, you just talked about an hour long demo, which is typically the approximation of a demo length. To be generous, let’s double that time. We’ll say a demo is 2 hours long, including driving time, and extra talking.

    How in the hell do you do math? 10 appointments is definitely NOT 2 weeks of work. 10 appointments is 20 hours, and that’s being generous. I don’t know what job you expect a great pay at only working 10 hours a week. If someone works a typical 40 hour week, like a summer schedule, they would pay this off in 3 or 4 days.

    Oh, and by the way, Vector doesn’t require the new reps to purchase their sample kits of knives. They are rented out, for FREE. They can CHOOSE to buy their kit, which is not $200, but is $85. I bought mine in the first weekend.

    “You are using the niceness of your family. How can an uncle say no to a niece? That is how Cutco gets you to buy their knives. Most people don’t need a new set of knives (most people just need to sharpen theirs).”

    Wrong, again. Most people definitely need a better knife set. Shitty knives break all the time, and dull insanely fast. And, funny how you forgot to mention that Cutco’s “Forever Guarantee” covers, not only free sharpening, but free replacement of damaged knives. They ship out over 192,000 replacements/repaired knives per year. I literally just visited the factory in Olean, NY, and asked about that stat.

    Oh, and yes, you start with people you know, and if they buy, awesome, they just helped out a college kid, AND got a killer set of knives. Win-win situation. But after a while, you run out of people you personally know, and are exclusively working on the list of recommendations you have built up through each demo. You end up working with distant friends of friends of friends of friends, way down the line. It is not trying to guilt people into helping you.

    “There is nothing special about their kitchen knives. Yes Ka-bar is one of my favorite knife brands but Cutco kitchen knives are overpriced. You are better off buying a professional knife set with the same amount of money.”

    My goodness, you really don’t do your research.

    Let’s price compare, shall we?

    Wusthof knives, of Germany are one of the top selling fine cutlery brands. Their medium set: $3200, occasionally on sale for about $2,000.

    Shun-Kaji knives, of Japan, are again, a very popular fine cutlery set. Their medium sized set: upwards of $4,000.

    J.A. Henckels: $2-3,000.

    And, drum roll please….

    Cutco’s medium sized set (18-pieces, almost identical in content to each of these other examples): $1,165.

    Oh, and I find it funny when you say these knives are nothing special, considering they are the highest rated brand of cutlery in the entire planet. Rated higher that Shun, higher than Wusthof, higher than Henckel’s. Boom.

    “You are not reimbursed for travel expenses. Yup, if you drive across the state, you won’t be paid for it and, for in-home sales, you will do a lot of driving.”

    Wrong. As someone mentioned in previous comments, they don’t take taxes out of your paychecks, but anything business-related is a tax deductible business expense.

    You can write off $.50 per mile driven, just keep a log of it. You can write off you sample kit purchase (if you bought it.) you can write off meals when you are out and about on the job. You can write off food you purchase to cut up with the knives in demonstrations.

    I drove 180 miles from my college to my hometown (from ABQ, NM, to Bloomfield, NM) to visit my girlfriend. I did a demo for her parents while I was there, and I wrote off the mileage, successfully.

    Math time. 180 miles x 2 (for both directions) x .5 (50 cents per mile) = $180 tax deduction.

    Huh, weird, my gas for both directions totaled to about $50. It’s like the company is so good to me, and actually wants to save me money. Too good to be true? By your logic, “Yes, it’s definitely a scam.”

    I am going to pay $0 on taxes this year because I kept track of my expenses very well.

    All in all, no, my results are not typical, but I’m only in the 80th percentile, if that. There are literally thousands of people working for Vector who do much more than I do with this job.

    There are tens of thousands of people working for this company that actually LOVE their job. I apologize that your son was not one of them.

    Please, do your research before you try to cry “wolf.”

  70. Will Chavez says:

    And, to add to this, seeing as most of you think I’m some false advertising person hired by Vector to talk them up… Look me up on Facebook. My profile picture is me, in a suit, in the snow, in New York, where the company flew me, FOR FREE.

    Idiots wouldn’t know a good job if it slapped you in the face. Which, it basically is. Seriously, go to an interview, and see if they don’t change your mind.

  71. Dee says:

    I worked for Vector a few years ago. While it IS possible to make money there, you have to jump through hoops and really commit yourself 100% to the idea and the company, no matter what. After the multiple days of unpaid training you go through, you’re also expected to come in for unpaid weekly team meetings (sometimes several times a week), unpaid phone dumps (again, sometimes several times a week), and unpaid business seminars. I made some money in the time I worked for Vector but the amount of unpaid hours really got to me, especially since we weren’t being reimbursed for travel.

  72. Pat says:

    Ok, After reading several laughs I must reply.
    1. If the manager was stating it honestly in his advertising he should have stated per presentation.
    2. If you actually did your homework and price quality Cutlery you would see that paying 50 – 100 for a knife that is guaranteed is normal.
    3. Any college student that is looking for interpersonal communication skills can tell you that you should be paying Vector marketing for that kind of experience.

    For those who are posting here that think you can gain experience in industry by working fast food, lawn care, or other sweat jobs in the summer good luck with that.
    Direct sales is some of the hardest work one can ever choose. You have to prepare to hear “No” a lot.
    If you are willing to stick with it you will learn how to sell not just Cutco, but more importantly yourself.
    I am an engineer, and have been for over 20 years. I worked for 3 summers selling Cutco while I was in school.
    I would not trade the experience or my Cutco for any other.

    For those who pontificate about Electronic Scams and covering for them, stop typing and get the facts. Any town that has had Vector working in them has a BBB and a Local college campus. Our office had been in good community standing for over 12 years.
    Are there people who liars and deceiver? Sure there are. Just like any other business or political office.

    Don’t take others word or mine. Check it for yourself.
    Pat

  73. Joe says:

    Went to an interview for them a few years ago. Showed up and 15 other people were in the room
    . They said they were so busy that had to make it a group interview (even though I was told I was having an interview one on one with a manager). I had a feeling during the interview it was too good to be true. He told us about the $18 bucks an hour, cruise trips, vacation packages they offer, so I had a sneaky feeling this was a scam. They guy asked me a question once and I said about 3 sentences. Then after the interview he called everyone in individually and told me I was one of the best and they wanted me. Even though I said 3 sentences ! He gave me a packet of information and said told me to show up for training the next Monday. As I was stuck in traffic on the ride home I browsed through the packet he gave me, only to find out that I had to bring a check for
    200 dollars with me to the training. I immediately pulled over and through the packet in the first garbage can I saw …. The funny thing is they just called me this morning , 3 years later asking if I would like to come in for an interview. I acted very excited and enthused and said I would come in Tuesday. Wish I could see the look in the guys face when I don’t show up! Haha. I have 3 friends who also fell victim
    To this scam too. Stay away!

  74. Andrew says:

    I worked for Vector about 6 years ago. My manager told me I should stop talking to my Grandmother if she couldn’t afford a set of knives. The office closed without any notice (on a Sunday night) and it took numerous calls to Vector to get my last check.
    I have a set of knives and don’t like them at all.
    Andrew

  75. A-Dub says:

    Haha, I started to burst out laughing when you mentioned,

    “The company also has cool things like trips to Cancun and scholarships. Wow, what a great job for a college kid!”,

    because I’m 19, a college student, and I’ve been with vector for about 13 months. And in my 2nd month was when they had the January incentive push to Cancun, which I WORKed my butt off to win and attended the following April :)Puerto Vallarta is next, can’t wait to see the hidden beach thing.

  76. Bekah says:

    You don’t have to have to be good at sales to be good at this job. We teach everybody how to be successful during training! I’m sorry your son didn’t stick with it and was unable to learn the type of skills that are needed in any professional business environment. I would like to mention that our knives are made out of high carbon stainless steel. You were right about the 440A though! Not sold in stores though, it saves our customers 10%-40% on the price because we ship directly to the customer. However, after 10 years, the knives do need sharpening, and we understand that so we do it for free. In fact sir, if you sat through my presentation and got all of the correct facts, You would buy Cutco :). If somebody is complaining about unpaid time, that sadness me. The only reason people should attend weekly meeting is to advance their skills and become a better person overall! We don’t just talk, we educate. I don’t believe that there are tricks to selling Cutco. They’re all given during training, but over time, I’ve found that people forget. Sometimes people change what they were taught and those people don’t do so well. I’d like to make a quick point at the difference in responses. All Cutco workers sound educated, others do as well, but anybody that works at Cutco is taught how to effectively work with others. Go us lol
    Regardless, no matter what anybody says, I love my job :) I’ve learned so much from this company and was able to move up very quickly into management. For those who pay attention to the real facts, there is no other opportunity out there like working for Vector. Give it a shot!

  77. Cut KO says:

    Well, truth me told, I hated every minute of working at Vector. My manager was the the biggest A-hole. He used to call my cell phone multiple times a day, hassling me to make appointments and close sales, even one a day when I was in bed with a fever. The only reason why I made it was the fact that I knew a lot of rich people (not 1%, though) and restaurant owners. I cheated by selling to businesses instead of individuals; I had the owners place the order under their personal name, rather than as their business. But given how my boss was treating me, it was either cheat or have a big red “terminated” mark on my employment record. I’ve long since quit that job, and I hope my past boss rots in hell.

    I suppose there was one redeeming part of this sorry excuse for a job. I won some kind of a raffle, and they put me on a cruise. It was an old, no-frills ship, and knowing Vector, I had to share my cabin with another Vector dude. He was OK, maybe kind of shy, but man, did he snore! Anyway, it turned out that there were also some Vector girls on the ship. I got so much tail on that cruise, it’s un-freaking-believable!

  78. Jeff Drake says:

    I worked for Vector Marketing when I was in college, and I frankly find it highly suspicious that your son saw an ad promising “$12-20 an hour.” Every ad I’ve ever seen—and I’ve seen a lot of ads in several different states—advertises a single, specific dollar amount “base per appointment.” Mine was no different, offering $11.25 base per appointment—not bad, for 1993.

    The first summer I worked for Vector, I put in about 25 hours/week and finished the summer having made about $2,300. It was enjoyable, but it was really hard work, so I decided it wasn’t for me and that I wouldn’t go back.

    Four months later, I came home for Christmas break. I sat around doing nothing for the first couple of weeks, then realized I was going to be miserable if I went back to school with no money. I stopped by the office, grabbed some supplies, and filled two days with presentations. Since I’d been promoted four times over the summer, I was getting a pretty decent commission. I went back to school with $800 in my pocket for two days’ work—pretty darned good, for 1994.

    Given my experience over Christmas break, I decided to go back for my next summer job. That year, I didn’t work nearly as hard, maybe 20 hours/week, but my higher commissions earned me about $4,500 from mid-May through mid-August. When I received my promotion to the highest-paid level, Field Sales Manager, my district manager said he never would have expected me to make it that far. It was only through hard work and sheer tenacity that I did so.

    It wasn’t too long after this that I moved out of the country for a couple of years, then returned and got married. I never again worked anywhere approaching full time for Vector. I did work part time during my third year of college, but the demands and desires of married life led me to look for a more predictable income. Still, I have nothing bad to say about Vector; I even used the skills Vector taught me, to place out of several college classes. Twenty years later, my wife and I still absolutely LOVE our Cutco (including the shears my grandmother purchased in 1961); My parents, aunts, uncles, and in-laws still use theirs on a daily basis; and every once in a while I get a surprise commission check because one of my old customers purchased something without my knowledge.

    Does Vector work for everyone? Heck no. Only 5% of new hires ever stick it out long enough to get the point I did, and Vector couldn’t be successful if it didn’t recognize this high turnover rate and design its hiring practices accordingly. But is it a scam? Absolutely not. If 270 people per day are finding out the “truth” about Vector, I don’t blame them for doing damage control. Unfortunately, the truth and the “truth” are often quite different, and this situation would be no exception.

  79. Michael says:

    Severely misinformed and butt-hurt.

  80. Nan Robinson says:

    Regardless if you had a good experience or not, it’s still a scam. They target kids knowing they are vulnerable, getting lists from schools, the same ones you need to sign 10 releases to get any info on your own child. Customers need to give out referrals from unsuspected friends, family which always comes back to bight you..and regards to comparing to Mary Kay, Avon,. those customers continue to reorder monthly, yearly,& I don’t need refills on my kitchen knives, thank you. This is a pyramid scheme, and like many others, a few do great, while many don’t busting their a*s, and feel like crap. Please don’t make our youth feel any worse than they can by saying that “this will be good for them, teach them skills” They already start out with enough mistrust, and don’t need to be taught the skills of scamming. Lets get honest here and lead our youth in the right direction…remember, they are the ones who will be taking care of us/running the country when we are too old.

  81. CJ says:

    Lou*

    You don’t even have proof that Vector is doing what you claim they are doing. What you typed on here is just a statement of your opinion and nothing more, unless you had concrete evidence. My comment is also just my opinion and nothing more, I don’t have concrete evidence and I’m not going to provide any. Every one of you who submits a comment to this article simply is stating there perception. Nobody is completely right and no one is completely wrong. There is a little bit of truth to everything but because of that, this also means the opposite, there are things that are untrue, which leads to misunderstandings, which then leads to false information or exaggerations. Also both parties – the ones that are against VECTOR/CUTCO and the ones that are for it – are a little biased towards the other: the ones that have had a great experience being a part of VECTOR have not experienced the ( or don’t have the same perception) same unpleasant experiences others have, or at least not enough to make them feel angry towards VECTOR, to the point they want to express those negative feelings; claiming that they want to help shed light on a “SCAM” that’s made up of rumor’s and truth, even though you must admit.. you’re all being a little biased. And the one’s with very unpleasant experiences, that aren’t cut out for sales, leadership, customer service or just simply don’t like it and can’t see the benefits to VECTOR; most of you haven’t had the pleasure to experience the great benefits VECTOR has to offer, like others have or you’re just not willing to put the effort or you don’t see the point or you don’t want to make sacrifices, what ever the reason, you’re also being biased. There’s good and bad to everything. If you want to go cut lawn for I guess what the guy up there said, 12 dollars an hour; you might not like it, you might do a horrible job, you may feel uncomfortable or it may just not be for you. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a bad job, so there’s no reason for you to express how much it sucks other than you just wanting to let it out. And it does feel good when you’re able to express yourself. I’m not saying any of you are wrong or right, and I’m not saying you all should stop expressing yourselves. I’m just sharing my opinion and hopefully it can help someone.
    By the way :) I do work for VECTOR and NO!!! I’m not getting paid to type up this comment, that’s dumb but I’ll admit it would be sweet if it did cause I could make some quick cash, lol. But I’m doing this because I want to support what I’m doing and share my thoughts and experiences. So far I’ve had a lot of positive experiences and I love what I’m doing; I have had a few bad times but not enough for me to go and hate VECTOR. I knew what I was getting into when I started and yes I had read all the scam warnings about VECTOR and they’re very convincing but I wanted to see if for myself. So I went to the interview, training, and did demos and it turns out that I like all that stuff and all the responsibilities that come with it. I also have a second job at a golf course, one that the guy who wrote this article considers “real”. I love what I do but it is difficult especially if you want to be successful and if you want to reach a high level position. Like I said, in my opinion and from my experience, there is good and bad to everything; you just have to realize how far you’re willing to go and what you’re willing to endure, for what you’re passionate for or simply for what you want to do.
    To everyone who took the time to read my thoughts, you’re awesome, I don’t care if you hate, it happens lol. Thanks and yes I’m real and no! I’m not here to saturate or whatever :P . Everyone take care!
    ( I want everyone to know that everything I just typed is my opinion and I don’t think or am claiming it to be factual, it’s my perception)

  82. VICTOR MEERKAT says:

    I worked at Cutco for 6 months and made over 30000$! Everyone who says is a scam is a liar! Cutco makes the bestest knives everr!!1

  83. Kris says:

    Vector is a hard core scam I tried to work their with all the false promises and lies you get your knifes for Free but if you don’t sell anything within 2 weeks of your training they dismiss you the people above you make more money then you do off your sale then you do period IT IS A SCAM PERIOD.

  84. Jay says:

    My brother works for them and has done very well so far at selling people the product. That being said he has alienated himself from the family, has been so brainwashed that he gave free knives to family members for Christmas with a buy from me note attached. Not even wrapped just left on the floor with little kids running around. Needless to say nobody bought from him. Also he went to a seminar in NY and apparently was coached as he called me and my mother and who knows what other people about how “fake” he’s been and to call him out on it. Even when trying to sound genuine in that conversation you can tell he was fake. If you don’t have a family or don’t care about them vector might be for you but otherwise I would stay away from this pyramid scheme

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